Title: Calls Out Trump's \"Whistleblower\"
Show: The Jimmy Dore Show
Date: 2019-09-30
URL: https://youtu.be/hSG800M8n9c
Duration: 22:00

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[00:00] we have special guests with us right now so we're gonna talk about all the stuff that's happening with The Whistleblower and Donald Trump and the Ukraine and Joe Biden and hunter Biden and we're not even gonna talk about the creepy stuff about hundred bite him now you're gonna bring it up so we're just gonna talk about this corruption stuff we have our special guest with us he is friend of the show he's a columnist for reader supported news and he co-hosts the show loud and clear on Sputnik radio he was also a CIA operations officer until he

[00:31] what he blew the whistle on the CIA for its use of waterboarding please welcome back to the show John Kiriakou hey John how are you so no John you're a whistleblower so that means the press protected you and a lot of people in Congress stood up for you and they let you remain anonymous right see because I couldn't blow the whistle on the CIA's torture program through proper channels because my proper channels created the torture

[01:03] program and I couldn't go even around my proper channels to the oversight committees because the oversight committees funded the torture program and then covered it up so I elected to go to the media which resulted in the the entire weight of the US government falling on my head but that's okay it was it was an experience that in the end was worth it so wait a minute you are a whistleblower and you ended up being prosecuted by the same government that you were blowing the whistle on yeah and the funny thing about that Jimmy is is

[01:34] that I was I was investigated initially by the Bush administration because I had blown the whistle during the George W Bush administration and and then in December of 2008 the Bush Justice Department found ruled decided whatever you want to say that I had not committed a crime and they sent my lawyers something called a declination letter declining to prosecute me for weeks later when Barack Obama became president and John Brennan became the deputy

[02:05] national security council John being an old nemesis of mine from the CIA John asked the this department to secretly reopen the case against me and so for the next three years I had no idea that my phones were tapped that my emails were being intercepted and that I had three different groups of FBI agents surveilling me 24 hours a day finally in January of 2012 I was arrested by the FBI and charged with five felonies

[02:35] including three counts of espionage coming out of my whistleblowing in the end of course I hadn't committed espionage that's a that's a tactic that they use to try to coerce you into pleading guilty and they were successful once I went bankrupt they dropped all the espionage charges and I took a plea to a lesser charge but I ended up going to prison for 23 months Wow that's well that's what's because you see a lot of people saying stuff about Edward Snowden

[03:07] or Chelsea Manning or then oh they didn't they didn't go through the proper channels and of course you just elucidate why going through the proper channels is often not an open track for you to do that because those channels are the very people you're blowing the whistle on and actually because that's a very important point and I really want people to understand this I have a friend Tom Drake who's a major whistle blower at NSA so Tom Drake stumbled in the in the immediate aftermath of the

[03:38] 9/11 attacks Tom Drake stumbled on information showing that NSA was was targeting American citizens this blanket surveillance warrantless wiretapping interception of emails and phone calls of American citizens clearly illegal so he went through the chain of command he went first to his boss and was told to mind his own business then he went to the Inspector General just like this new CI a whistleblower did the Inspector General didn't know what the heck he was talking about because it wasn't read

[04:10] into the compartment then he went to the general counsel was told to just beg off then he went to the Pentagon inspector general because NSA is a DoD agency the Pentagon inspector general actually destroyed the evidence that brought out with him so then Tom went to the Oversight Committee the house permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and he ended up getting nine felony charges including seven counts of espionage for doing exactly as he was taught to do to go through the

[04:40] chain of command so the chain of commands a joke the chain of command actually it's a bad joke it doesn't work you are gonna lose your career you're probably gonna lose your money and you might lose your freedom even if you go through the chain of command alright so there you go so that's it's amazing how the whistleblower when it comes to Trump is a hero but the whistleblower when it came to George Bush and Barack Obama are the worst guys in the world meaning Chelsea Manning you and Julian Assange and it's not--and Edward Snowden and

[05:14] that's the way it is which is which is funny and sad at the same time because we have a federal whistleblower law in this country and we have a new law that's that's supposed to protect whistleblowers in the intelligence community and and it's a joke you know if you if you blow the whistle on let's say money laundering or tax evasion or bank fraud like Brad Birkenfeld did at UBS Brad Birkenfeld although he was prosecuted too wrongly I believe and went to prison for three and a half years when he got out he got a 104

[05:47] million dollar settlement from the Treasury Department for his whistleblowing but if you're in national security forget it you're going to prison and you're going a real prison not some minimum security work camp you didn't get a settlement man I am still digging my way out of bankruptcy it's awful well listen I'm glad you here because we have a another whistleblower inside the White House John this is great news someone's gonna tell the

[06:17] truth and it seems like all the politicians learned from your case because now they're protecting the whistleblower well here it is New York Times revealed that the whistleblower who was blew the whistle on Trump pressuring the Ukraine government to get dirt on his political opponent meaning Joe Biden the whistleblower was from the CIA and he was detailed inside the White House so this is right for the New York Times it says the Wizard blower who revealed that President Trump sought foreign help for his reelection and that the White House sought to cover it up is a CIA officer

[06:50] who was detailed to work at the White House at one point according to three people familiar with his identity the man has since returned to the CIA the people said little little else is known about him now let me just let me just stop here is that normal John for a CIA guy to be working kind of inside the seat inside the White House kind of against the people in the White House you know I mean kind of spying on them is that normal though is that there are

[07:25] a whole bunch of jobs at the National Security Council that are reserved for CIA analysts so if you're a really great analyst and you get up to the GS 14 or gs-15 level your reward rather than to be transferred somewhere else around the building your reward is to go down to the White House for a year and if you're really good you can extend that for a second year and then when you go back to CIA headquarters you get promoted so everybody wants to do a one or two year rotation at the White House this tells

[07:56] me that this guy is legit that he was a top analyst that he was rewarded for his analysis by being sent to the White House for a year or two he saw something that scared the daylights out of him and then he went back to the CIA now one of the interesting things that I noticed in this New York's New York Times piece was his understanding and familiarity with the so called transcript of this call first of all that was not a transcript that was what's called a mem con a

[08:26] Memorandum of conversation or a telecon mem Telkom Memorandum of a telephone conversation those are generally not circulated to the analysts at the CIA they are internal NSC documents and so it tells me that he was probably still at an at the NSC when he read the document and only very recently went back to the CIA and then reported what he had learned through CIA channels so I think this guy's probably a top analyst so you don't think that the CIA

[09:02] I mean what is your so the view of this show and us here as far as Russia gate goes is that that was drummed up by the mostly the intelligence community to mess with Trump and so this too well for it well this let me give you the rest of the and then it'll come back to you because so the man has returned to the CIA the people said little else is known about this guy and according I love with my friend Katelyn Johnson said this she

[09:32] says so there you have it a mysterious stranger from the lying torturing propagandizing drug trafficking assassinating coup staging war mongering psychopathic CIA was working in the White House heroically provided the political media class with politically powerful information out of the goodness of his heart and then vanished off into the Langley sunset clearly there's nothing suspicious about this at all she goes on to say in all seriousness even the call this spook a whistleblower is ridiculous on its face you don't get to call

[10:03] someone from the US intelligence community a whistleblower unless they're actually whistleblowing on the US intelligence community that's that's not a thing unless you did it like you did John Hitz she says the CIA liberally leaks information wherever it's convenient for CIA agendas while withholding all other information behind a veil of government secrecy a CIA officer who exposes information about CIA wrongdoings without the CIA's permission is a whistleblower which is

[10:35] what John Kiriakou is a CIA officer who exposes information about someone else is just a spook doing spook things you can recognize the latter by the way the mass media supports and applause it employs them like they're now paid consultants the former head of the CIA hunts for MSNBC and CNN and you can recognize the former the real deal whistleblowers by the way they have been persecuted imprisoned and/or died under mysterious circumstances and that would

[11:06] be also you so do you have any wood how do you reset it i my my detector goes off when they say it's a whistleblower who works for the CIA if they after they just got done blowing their russia gate scam that they tried to pull entre and this goes back to wet i'll go ahead let me i'll go back to so go ahead i just want to give you responsible anymore i think she's absolutely right I'll tell you what I'd like to ask this whistleblower is Ukraine aside I want to

[11:38] know about the drone program I want to know if there's still a torture program that's been reconstituted I want to know about secret renditions I want to know about secret prisons do we still have them if so where are they we don't know any of that stuff so I have to agree with with Caitlin Johnstone this this guy this guy wants the best of both worlds he wants to be seen as a whistleblower and by God the mainstream media has bestowed that upon him and he wants to

[12:08] take down Donald Trump and he wants to just ride off into the sunset maybe get another promotion for having done what he's done but let me add one more thing to Jimmy it took my attorneys especially jesselyn Radack one year and I mean working full-time for one year to get the mainstream media specifically CNN and MSNBC to stop calling me CIA leaker John Kiriakou and to start calling me CIA whistleblower John

[12:39] Kiriakou finally the week before I went to prison a year after my arrest CIA caught I'm sorry CNN called me a whistleblower MSNBC called me a whistleblower with quotation marks around the word whistleblower and then Rachel Maddow who's supposed to be this great chapter always every time she says my name she always says John Kiriakou who styles himself a whistleblower uh-huh and then she can't understand why

[13:11] I won't go on her show yeah she's the worst you should go on her show and say she styles herself a journalist yes you can have that John so this is quite a tweet so Caitlyn then tweeted this and I want to show everybody this because it really breaks it down she says take off the revolutionaries mask and it's the CIA that's Juan Guido take off the terrorists mask and it's the CIA that's al-qaeda we've funded them we also through Saudi Arabia take off the newsman's mask and it's the CIA well you

[13:43] know I we already showed you that on the show take off the filmmakers mask and it's the CIA that's the white helmets take off the whistleblowers mask and it's the CIA yeah she's absolutely right she's absolutely right and what kind of bizarro world do we live in where now all of a sudden practically overnight it's the CIA that's the good guys what that right that that's like movies I can't so here

[14:14] I want to play this for everybody you've seen this I'm and everybody who watches the show seen it but it bears repeating so here is Chuck Schumer talking with the venerated / Richelieu Stiles herself as a journalist Rachel Maddow who's a propagandist of the highest order thirty thousand dollars a day to post a she pulls anyway here is Chuck Schumer they're admitting this is what's called a gaffe and a gaffe is when you accidentally tell the truth and that's what he's doing here he's actually gonna let the cat out of the bag about what

[14:46] the CIA does if you don't go along with them even if you're the President of the United States he's taking these you take on the intelligence community they have six ways from Sunday is getting back at you so even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman who's being really dumb to do this what do you think the intelligence community would do if they were mine I don't know what I from what I am told they are very upset with how he has treated them and talked about

[15:16] them and so John to me this is exactly what Chuck Schumer predicted the CIA then went in messed with Donald Trump with the steel dossier which was completely debunked they went and bet was basically Russia gate they got that the FISA warrant on him in such a BS manner and then they still couldn't prove their goddamn case there they did it all under there's so much corruption around Trump yet they did it under the one thing he didn't do which was collude with Russia in the twenty-sixth collected so they failed at that and now

[15:49] they're gonna try to do this Ukraine thing which is why that's why it's what it looks like to me which is why I wanted to bring you on does that what it looks like to you this again the CIA is messin with the president even though he may have done something corrupt it's still them trying to get him right absolutely yes you know when when Chuck Schumer gave that interview the very next day I was invited on to CNN to to explain what his comments meant were they talking about November 22nd 1963

[16:19] was one of the questions and I said no they're not talking about November 22nd 1963 what they're talking about and this is where I made a mistake Jimmy I underestimated them and their malice I said what they're talking about is they can make this president fail they can make him fail by slow-rolling him if they don't like a president they know that they can outweigh him because these guys at the senior levels of the CIA have been there for 20 30 35 years I knew one guy at the CIA who was who was

[16:52] in the senior intelligence service leadership for 42 years so they know that presidents come and go and they're always going to be there what they do then is if the president says oh I want you to focus on China they say yeah yeah we're gonna get right on that and they just ignore him because they in four years he's gonna be gone and somebody else is gonna be president what I didn't think was that they had the guts to actively take up measures against a president and now I've got to

[17:23] agree with you I think we've seen them do it twice we saw them do it with with Russia gate knowing that that was bogus information and then they continue to leak bogus information through their Stooges like Kendall a nyan at NBC and MSNBC too to pollute the the media with this nonsensical storyline it failed when the Muller report came out and now I think we're seeing him do it again yeah it was a big crash in Bern especially if you watched

[17:55] the Moller testimony I mean not watch the news media's coverage of it but if you actually watch the bonus that's the mone it was it was a case of Elder Abuse and they would say was sad it was worse than it was worse than watching Joe Biden try to tell you to keep a record player on it sure and that was the face of warranty been against Carter page you know that word was was falsely obtained yes and it was falsely renewed and

[18:27] everybody just seems to have been they've forgotten about it there there should be there should be a Justice Department investigation on the CIA officers or whoever did it the FBI agents who went to the FISA Court and swore that the information they had was true and used that false information to get these fights and warrants on Carter page they Oh Carter page an apology and somebody needs to be prosecuted for what they did oh so that is what so nuts brings me to my next question for you now a lot some

[19:00] people are speculating that that's exactly why the CIA is doing this blowing the whistle right now at this moment because they are launching an investigation into actually how Russia Gate got started who gave false information you know they the guy who started this whole thing was Mills food if that's how you pronounce his name he started the whole thing and it looks like he was CIA right and he lied to the FBI Muller admits in his report he lied

[19:31] to the FBI three times they never prosecuted him never reinter viewed him so now they're gonna do a real now it looks like they're gonna do a real investigation into Russia gate and this is to try to throw the dogs off the scent or to try to distract everybody from that and engagin what do you say to that oh yeah you know I think that the fix was in with with Mifsud because you remember when the hit the fan they said well we can't find and he's a very shadow he carried him on my show

[20:04] University in the UK just pick up the phone and call him shadowy character they can't find him I freaking found him yeah they could I know wheat they they found him he was in Tora Bora they let him go anyway so that I think that this is what people aren't this is what do you get amazed when you watch the corporate media the MSNBC the CNN's you know I don't do you get amazed when

[20:35] you watch their coverage ABC the whole deal is crazy right yes you know I used to watch Morning Joe every day not because I like Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski but because they talked more about politics than any of the other morning shows and I just love politics I've been a political animal all my life well I I can't even watch that anymore in the morning no now in all honesty I'm not saying this to be funny I watch reruns of adam-12 in the morning when I'm getting ready for work because can't trust any of these morning shows on any of the

[21:05] network's so I you know I I live on the west coast so Morning Joe comes on here like 3:00 in the morning and so I used to watch it a little night I used to watch it right before I go to bed you watch it when you get up i watch it right before I go to bed because I like to go to bed angry with a straight face and looking right into the camera and saying Russia Russia Russia what about Russia come on man hey these people are that stupid they do and

[21:37] do don't you remember though when Russia hacked into our health care system and denied 30 million people access don't you remember when they did that don't you remember when Russia hacked into our banking system and foreclosed on 5.1 million families and kicked them out of their houses and then gave those houses back to those same bankers to sell them back to don't you remember when Russia did that don't remember in Russia made 80% of the workers live paycheck to paycheck you got to get onto the newsman I mean it's all Russia see I'm watching the wrong networks yeah yeah

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